Excerpted from a discussion on the austin-bikes email list, where one of my self-appointed burdens is to be the voice of reason towards those who live in the center-city echo chamber (where everybody bikes; where nobody wants sprawling highways; etc).
The last paragraph of my response is the most relevant piece, and the one that the person I was responding to and many other wishful thinkers just don’t get. I, thanks to moving here with suburbanites, and working with exclusively suburbanites, have learned the following painful truths:
- There are more suburbanites around here than urbanites. A LOT more. And the most recent election, they finally WON a seat in our city council (McCracken over Clarke) DESPITE much higher turnout in the center-city.
- Outside Austin, there are no urbanites. CAMPO is now 2/3 suburban, for instance.
- Suburbanites cannot conceive of any lifestyle other than the suburban one. Really. I get blank stares when I tell them I rode the bus to work today, or when I say I walked to the store.
- The sheer population and geographical coverage of suburban neighborhoods means that even if gas gets really expensive, they’re still going to be living there. Resistance to their redevelopment in ways which aren’t so car-dependent and the cost of such modifications means we’re stuck with what we have now for at least a few more decades. Yes, even at $5.00/gallon.
Here’s the thread:
Roger Baker wrote: > On Mar 4, 2005, at 9:34 AM, Mike Dahmus wrote: > > Roger Baker wrote: > > McCracken is the immediate hero here, but he likely wouldn't > have done it without Sal Costello, SOSA, and all the > independent grassroots organizing. > > On CAMPO, McCracken's resolution got defeated about 2 to 1, > with Gerald Daugherty on the bad side, along with CAMPO > Director Aulick. TxDOT's Bob Daigh deserves a special bad > actor award for expressing his opinion just before the CAMPO > vote, with no reasons given, that any independent study of the > CAMPO plan would be likely to threaten TxDOT funding for our > area. -- Roger > > > Just like the transit people in Austin with Mike Krusee, you've > been completely snookered if you think these people are your friends. > The goal of McCracken et al is NOT to stop building these roads; > it is to build these roads quickly as FREE HIGHWAYS. > In other words, McCracken and Costello ___ARE___ THE ROAD LOBBY! > Keep that in mind, folks. Slusher and Bill Bunch don't want the > roads at all, but pretty much everybody else who voted against the > toll plan wants to build them as free roads. > And these highways built free is a far worse prospect for Austin > and especially central Austin than if they're built as toll roads, > in every possible respect. > - MD > > > All that is easy for Mike to say but, as usual, lacks any factual basis or > documentation. Furthermore, he does not appear to read what I have previously > documented.
(my response):
As for factual basis or documentation, it should be obvious to anybody with the awareness of a three-year-old that McCracken’s playing to his suburban constituents who WANT THESE ROADS, AND WANT THEM TO BE FREE, rather than Slusher’s environmentalist constituents, who don’t want the roads at all.
As for reading what you’ve previously documented; oh, if only it were true. If only I hadn’t wasted a good month of my life reading your repeated screeds about the oil peak which have almost convinced me to go out and buy an SUV just to spite you.
POLITICAL REALITY MATTERS. The suburban voters who won McCracken his seat over Margot Clarke WANT THESE HIGHWAYS TO BE BUILT. AND THEY DON’T WANT THEM BUILT AS TOLL ROADS BECAUSE THEY’LL HAVE TO PAY (MORE) OF THE BILL IF THEY DO.
Here’s what’s going to happen if Roger’s ilk convinces the environmental bloc to continue their unholy alliance with the suburban road warriors like McCracken and Daugherty:
- We tell TXDOT we don’t want toll roads.
- TXDOT says we need to kick in a bunch more money to get them built free.
- We float another huge local bond package to do it (just like we did for local ‘contributions’ for SH 45, SH 130, and US 183A).
- The roads get built, as free highways.
- Those bonds are paid back by property and sales taxes, which disproportionately hit central Austinites, and especially penalize people who don’t or only infrequently drive.
Here’s what’s going to happen if the toll roads get built, as toll roads:
- TXDOT builds them.
- The current demand for the roadway is large enough to fill the coffers enough to keep the enterprise going without the bonds defaulting.
- (Even if #2 doesn’t happen, we’re at worst no worse off than above; with the added bonus that suburbanites still get to finally pay user fees for their trips on the roads).
Here’s what’s going to happen in Roger Fantasyland:
- McCracken, Gerald Daugherty, et al have a Come To Jesus moment and decide that we Really Don’t Need Any More Highways In The ‘Burbs.
Now, be honest. Which one of the three scenarios above do you find least likely?
YES, EVEN IF GAS TRIPLES IN PRICE, SUBURBANITES WILL STILL DRIVE. THE OIL PEAK IN THIS SENSE DOESN’T ****MATTER****. The people out there in Circle C aren’t going anywhere in the short term, and it’ll be decades before their neighborhoods are redeveloped in a less car-dependent fashion, assuming we can afford to.