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		<title>Comment on Rapid Bus versus existing conditions on the #3 corridor by m1ek</title>
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		<dc:creator>m1ek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 22:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have ridden Houston&#039;s, and have gotten off at that station, and there is no way in hell the MetroRapid &#039;stations&#039; are anywhere near that magnitude. I live right around the corner from one being &#039;built&#039; on Guadalupe - and it&#039;s basically a few feet of sidewalk frontage - room for one bench, nothing more. There is zero chance a bike rack will exist at this, or a dozen more &#039;stations&#039; I see under construction on a regular basis.

Now, it&#039;s possible some of the far north or far south &#039;stations&#039; may have a bike rack. But the ones in the center city certainly will not. And they&#039;re no bigger / longer than a bench. Compare/contrast to the Houston example, where a &#039;station&#039; is still minimal compared to heavy rail, but takes up a hundred or more feet, with multiple ticket machines and whatnot - in the median, not competing for space with pedestrians on the sidewalk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have ridden Houston&#8217;s, and have gotten off at that station, and there is no way in hell the MetroRapid &#8216;stations&#8217; are anywhere near that magnitude. I live right around the corner from one being &#8216;built&#8217; on Guadalupe &#8211; and it&#8217;s basically a few feet of sidewalk frontage &#8211; room for one bench, nothing more. There is zero chance a bike rack will exist at this, or a dozen more &#8216;stations&#8217; I see under construction on a regular basis.</p>
<p>Now, it&#8217;s possible some of the far north or far south &#8216;stations&#8217; may have a bike rack. But the ones in the center city certainly will not. And they&#8217;re no bigger / longer than a bench. Compare/contrast to the Houston example, where a &#8216;station&#8217; is still minimal compared to heavy rail, but takes up a hundred or more feet, with multiple ticket machines and whatnot &#8211; in the median, not competing for space with pedestrians on the sidewalk.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rapid Bus versus existing conditions on the #3 corridor by Novacek</title>
		<link>http://m1ek.dahmus.org/?p=802#comment-2287</link>
		<dc:creator>Novacek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Realigning various local routes is NOT NOT NOT even close to a replacement for the #3 &quot;
I partially agree, which is why my initial post said both &quot;yes and no&quot;.  For long distance travel, it is not a one to one replacement, but it can help replace some long-distance trips, via transfers (and for many trips, still come out ahead of the old travel times, due to the abundance of stops). 

&quot;I see no evidence there will be bike racks.&quot; I also was unable to find any direct mention of this on the web site (which I found odd, since adding them is basically &quot;free&quot; while they&#039;re there doing construction, and since capmetro has been pushing multi-modal with bikes recently).  So I emailed capmetro, and they told me that bike racks would be included.  
&quot;Thanks for your inquiry. Bike racks will be installed at the MetroRapid stations. 
Thanks,
Juan Wah
Community Involvement Coordinator l Business &amp; Community Development &#124; Capital Metro
&quot;

Take that statement for whatever it is worth. 

&quot;And the remainder of it was intended to point out that this is nothing at all like a light rail station (not even as good as the small stops that Houston has, really).&quot;
It&#039;s open-air, with an overhang and some benches.  That&#039;s basically the same as the red-line stops, and since I know you&#039;re not a fan, it also seems to be the same as the Houston stops (though I haven&#039;t ridden those, wikipedia&#039;s pictures seems to be the same, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_Hermann_Hospital/Houston_Zoo_(METRORail_station)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Realigning various local routes is NOT NOT NOT even close to a replacement for the #3 &#8221;<br />
I partially agree, which is why my initial post said both &#8220;yes and no&#8221;.  For long distance travel, it is not a one to one replacement, but it can help replace some long-distance trips, via transfers (and for many trips, still come out ahead of the old travel times, due to the abundance of stops). </p>
<p>&#8220;I see no evidence there will be bike racks.&#8221; I also was unable to find any direct mention of this on the web site (which I found odd, since adding them is basically &#8220;free&#8221; while they&#8217;re there doing construction, and since capmetro has been pushing multi-modal with bikes recently).  So I emailed capmetro, and they told me that bike racks would be included.<br />
&#8220;Thanks for your inquiry. Bike racks will be installed at the MetroRapid stations.<br />
Thanks,<br />
Juan Wah<br />
Community Involvement Coordinator l Business &amp; Community Development | Capital Metro<br />
&#8221;</p>
<p>Take that statement for whatever it is worth. </p>
<p>&#8220;And the remainder of it was intended to point out that this is nothing at all like a light rail station (not even as good as the small stops that Houston has, really).&#8221;<br />
It&#8217;s open-air, with an overhang and some benches.  That&#8217;s basically the same as the red-line stops, and since I know you&#8217;re not a fan, it also seems to be the same as the Houston stops (though I haven&#8217;t ridden those, wikipedia&#8217;s pictures seems to be the same, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_Hermann_Hospital/Houston_Zoo_(METRORail_station)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_Hermann_Hospital/Houston_Zoo_(METRORail_station)</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Rapid Bus versus existing conditions on the #3 corridor by m1ek</title>
		<link>http://m1ek.dahmus.org/?p=802#comment-2286</link>
		<dc:creator>m1ek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that they&#039;re a significant upgrade over &quot;sign on hot pavement&quot;. I disagree that they&#039;re anything close to the rail-like infrastructure that Capital Metro promised the center-city voters in 2004.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that they&#8217;re a significant upgrade over &#8220;sign on hot pavement&#8221;. I disagree that they&#8217;re anything close to the rail-like infrastructure that Capital Metro promised the center-city voters in 2004.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rapid Bus versus existing conditions on the #3 corridor by m1ek</title>
		<link>http://m1ek.dahmus.org/?p=802#comment-2285</link>
		<dc:creator>m1ek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not a lot of time for this right now, but will try to address what I can.

1. Realigning various local routes is NOT NOT NOT even close to a replacement for the #3 - which has a lot of long-distance travel on it now (I know; I used to take it sometimes as a bike boost). It&#039;s just an effort to basically boost ridership on MetroRapid by having more transfers directly on it.

2. The &#039;stations&#039; are &#039;bench+sign+canopy+lights+real-time-updates&#039;. I see no evidence there will be bike racks. Many of these &#039;stations&#039; are nearly complete in the core right now on the Lamar/Guadalupe route, and there&#039;s no room for racks. Don&#039;t know where you got that idea. And the remainder of it was intended to point out that this is nothing at all like a light rail station (not even as good as the small stops that Houston has, really).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a lot of time for this right now, but will try to address what I can.</p>
<p>1. Realigning various local routes is NOT NOT NOT even close to a replacement for the #3 &#8211; which has a lot of long-distance travel on it now (I know; I used to take it sometimes as a bike boost). It&#8217;s just an effort to basically boost ridership on MetroRapid by having more transfers directly on it.</p>
<p>2. The &#8216;stations&#8217; are &#8216;bench+sign+canopy+lights+real-time-updates&#8217;. I see no evidence there will be bike racks. Many of these &#8216;stations&#8217; are nearly complete in the core right now on the Lamar/Guadalupe route, and there&#8217;s no room for racks. Don&#8217;t know where you got that idea. And the remainder of it was intended to point out that this is nothing at all like a light rail station (not even as good as the small stops that Houston has, really).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rapid Bus versus existing conditions on the #3 corridor by Novacek</title>
		<link>http://m1ek.dahmus.org/?p=802#comment-2284</link>
		<dc:creator>Novacek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The bus will only stop at the indicated ‘stations’ (bench + sign).&quot;
+canopy+lights+real-time updates+bike racks.

The stations are a _significant_ upgrade over many of the existing stops on the line (which often consist of a sign stuck in the bare ground, sidewalk coverage on burnet being inconsistent).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The bus will only stop at the indicated ‘stations’ (bench + sign).&#8221;<br />
+canopy+lights+real-time updates+bike racks.</p>
<p>The stations are a _significant_ upgrade over many of the existing stops on the line (which often consist of a sign stuck in the bare ground, sidewalk coverage on burnet being inconsistent).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rapid Bus versus existing conditions on the #3 corridor by Novacek</title>
		<link>http://m1ek.dahmus.org/?p=802#comment-2283</link>
		<dc:creator>Novacek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, here it is, finally found the quote from CapMetro claiming that they will be moving routes to compensate for the #3 going away. 

&quot;There will be changes to other local routes to ensure adequate coverage and connectivity between local bus and MetroRapid&quot;

http://www.capmetro.org/faq.aspx?id=32]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, here it is, finally found the quote from CapMetro claiming that they will be moving routes to compensate for the #3 going away. </p>
<p>&#8220;There will be changes to other local routes to ensure adequate coverage and connectivity between local bus and MetroRapid&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.capmetro.org/faq.aspx?id=32" rel="nofollow">http://www.capmetro.org/faq.aspx?id=32</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Rapid Bus versus existing conditions on the #3 corridor by Novacek</title>
		<link>http://m1ek.dahmus.org/?p=802#comment-2281</link>
		<dc:creator>Novacek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The MetroRapid on Burnet isn’t coming for another year after the one up Guad/Lamar anyways.&quot;

The most recent dates I&#039;ve seen them claim are &quot;early&quot; 2014 and &quot;late summer&quot; 2014. http://www.capmetro.org/metrorapid-building.aspx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The MetroRapid on Burnet isn’t coming for another year after the one up Guad/Lamar anyways.&#8221;</p>
<p>The most recent dates I&#8217;ve seen them claim are &#8220;early&#8221; 2014 and &#8220;late summer&#8221; 2014. <a href="http://www.capmetro.org/metrorapid-building.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.capmetro.org/metrorapid-building.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Rapid Bus versus existing conditions on the #3 corridor by Novacek</title>
		<link>http://m1ek.dahmus.org/?p=802#comment-2280</link>
		<dc:creator>Novacek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2013 19:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What I mean is the #3 is covered, in part, by:
392
240
466
325
19
the 1 and others through downtown
338
331
(there&#039;s also some flyers and the PRC, but I&#039;m ignoring those for the moment as they aren&#039;t full service). 
Just eyeballing it, it appears as if even when the 3 goes away, approximately 50% of its route will still have local service.  This isn&#039;t even counting significant segments where another route parallels it only a block away (like portions of the 5 and 331).

To this we now add the 383.  To me, this is suggestive of an attempt by CapMetro to retain local service along this route, while not yet taking on the entire expense of retaining a full extra route.  We know they want to retain local service here, the 2020 service plan includes both the metrorapid and local service in this corridor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I mean is the #3 is covered, in part, by:<br />
392<br />
240<br />
466<br />
325<br />
19<br />
the 1 and others through downtown<br />
338<br />
331<br />
(there&#8217;s also some flyers and the PRC, but I&#8217;m ignoring those for the moment as they aren&#8217;t full service).<br />
Just eyeballing it, it appears as if even when the 3 goes away, approximately 50% of its route will still have local service.  This isn&#8217;t even counting significant segments where another route parallels it only a block away (like portions of the 5 and 331).</p>
<p>To this we now add the 383.  To me, this is suggestive of an attempt by CapMetro to retain local service along this route, while not yet taking on the entire expense of retaining a full extra route.  We know they want to retain local service here, the 2020 service plan includes both the metrorapid and local service in this corridor.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s time to talk about Rapid Bus again. by Novacek</title>
		<link>http://m1ek.dahmus.org/?p=800#comment-2276</link>
		<dc:creator>Novacek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2013 20:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not missing it. I recall seeing those slides as well, and like you I looked for them to refresh my memory and couldn&#039;t seem to find them. I just think that anything that far in the future is enough in doubt (in existence, precedence, and order) that &quot;planned&quot; is overstating it. 

&quot;Pflugervillians on the southern side of their city can get utility out of the Green Line &quot;
The very southern-most tip of Flugerville is 9 miles from Manor.  _Could_ they drive to Manor, sure.  But the distance will limit the numbers, plus they&#039;d be driving pretty far East to head West (my understanding is your claim on the Red Line is that Austinites won&#039;t drive a mile north to head south on it). 

&quot;but it’s also straining the limits of credulity to assert that it will be small.&quot;
Why?  Every factor is working to ensure that it&#039;s small (relative populations and growth rates, distances, directions).  

&quot;and the idea that they’ll all just be annexed seems ridiculous.&quot;
Austin&#039;s history has shown that when development of sufficient size occurs, so does annexation. That eastern area is Austin&#039;s &quot;preferred development corridor&quot;, the city _wants_ to expand and grow there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not missing it. I recall seeing those slides as well, and like you I looked for them to refresh my memory and couldn&#8217;t seem to find them. I just think that anything that far in the future is enough in doubt (in existence, precedence, and order) that &#8220;planned&#8221; is overstating it. </p>
<p>&#8220;Pflugervillians on the southern side of their city can get utility out of the Green Line &#8221;<br />
The very southern-most tip of Flugerville is 9 miles from Manor.  _Could_ they drive to Manor, sure.  But the distance will limit the numbers, plus they&#8217;d be driving pretty far East to head West (my understanding is your claim on the Red Line is that Austinites won&#8217;t drive a mile north to head south on it). </p>
<p>&#8220;but it’s also straining the limits of credulity to assert that it will be small.&#8221;<br />
Why?  Every factor is working to ensure that it&#8217;s small (relative populations and growth rates, distances, directions).  </p>
<p>&#8220;and the idea that they’ll all just be annexed seems ridiculous.&#8221;<br />
Austin&#8217;s history has shown that when development of sufficient size occurs, so does annexation. That eastern area is Austin&#8217;s &#8220;preferred development corridor&#8221;, the city _wants_ to expand and grow there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on It&#8217;s time to talk about Rapid Bus again. by m1ek</title>
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		<dc:creator>m1ek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2013 19:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re missing the phasing plan - which, unfortunately, I have not been able to locate lately. It explicitly mentions the Green Line as preceding later phases of urban rail.

As for the Elgin question, Elgin fits the role of Liberty Hill and other areas upstream of Leander. Pflugervillians on the southern side of their city can get utility out of the Green Line similar to how Cedar Parkers do with the Red Line; many people from the southern end of PF come down to 290 and then into town that way. It&#039;s way too early to say whether the free-riding problem will be as bad as it is on the Red Line, where it is very bad indeed, but it&#039;s also straining the limits of credulity to assert that it will be small. Manor is very small compared to the outlying areas around it, and the idea that they&#039;ll all just be annexed seems ridiculous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re missing the phasing plan &#8211; which, unfortunately, I have not been able to locate lately. It explicitly mentions the Green Line as preceding later phases of urban rail.</p>
<p>As for the Elgin question, Elgin fits the role of Liberty Hill and other areas upstream of Leander. Pflugervillians on the southern side of their city can get utility out of the Green Line similar to how Cedar Parkers do with the Red Line; many people from the southern end of PF come down to 290 and then into town that way. It&#8217;s way too early to say whether the free-riding problem will be as bad as it is on the Red Line, where it is very bad indeed, but it&#8217;s also straining the limits of credulity to assert that it will be small. Manor is very small compared to the outlying areas around it, and the idea that they&#8217;ll all just be annexed seems ridiculous.</p>
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